as shown or as is shown? (2025)

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sevengem

Senior Member

Chinese

  • Dec 9, 2016
  • #1

Our sales has greatly improved, _____ in the figure.

Is it "as is shown" or "as shown"? Why? Thanks!

  • Keith Bradford

    Senior Member

    Brittany, NW France

    English (Midlands UK)

    • Dec 9, 2016
    • #2

    Both are good.

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Dec 9, 2016
    • #3

    sevengem said:

    "Shown" is the past participle of "show". Past participles are used in several ways.

    One use is to make a passive verb:
    I show the book.
    The book is shown.
    ...as I show in the figure.
    ...as is shown in the figure.

    Another use acts like an adjective:
    as shown in the figure.

    A clearer example of the adjective use is the past participle "beaten":
    verb: He was beaten.
    adj: He looks beaten.

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    sevengem

    Senior Member

    Chinese

    • Dec 12, 2016
    • #4

    Can I also fill in "which is shown"?

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    sevengem

    Senior Member

    Chinese

    • Dec 12, 2016
    • #5

    dojibear said:

    "Shown" is the past participle of "show". Past participles are used in several ways.

    One use is to make a passive verb:
    I show the book.
    The book is shown.
    ...as I show in the figure.
    ...as is shown in the figure.

    Another use acts like an adjective:
    as shown in the figure.

    A clearer example of the adjective use is the past participle "beaten":
    verb: He was beaten.
    adj: He looks beaten.

    When "shown " serves as an adjective, what is "as" then? A preposition?

    Keith Bradford

    Senior Member

    Brittany, NW France

    English (Midlands UK)

    • Dec 12, 2016
    • #6

    Yes. It means "like, similar to..."

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    sevengem

    Senior Member

    Chinese

    • Dec 12, 2016
    • #7

    But it seems rare to see "as mentioned above".

    Keith Bradford

    Senior Member

    Brittany, NW France

    English (Midlands UK)

    • Dec 12, 2016
    • #8

    That's a perfectly good expression and not rare.

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    Ivan_I

    Banned

    Russian

    • Jan 19, 2019
    • #9

    So, basically we can say either "as shown - as is shown", "as known - as is known", "as mentioned - as is mentioned"?

    Keith Bradford

    Senior Member

    Brittany, NW France

    English (Midlands UK)

    • Jan 19, 2019
    • #10

    Yes. Isn't English fun!

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Jan 19, 2019
    • #11

    "Show, know, mention" are all verbs. Each has a subject (who is showing?), a direct object (what are they showing?) and an indirect object (who are they showing it to?).

    Sometimes you can omit 1 or more of these 3 things, but all 3 are implied. Even in sentences where we call "shown" an adjective (to match "grammar rules") it still has the same meaning: someone is showing something to someone. There are many different ways to re-arrange these 3 nouns, often omitting some of them.

    Birds can fly, as is shown (by the author to the reader) in picture 1.
    Birds can fly, as shown (by the author to the reader) in picture 1.
    Birds can fly, as shown (to the reader) by picture 1.
    Birds can fly, as picture 1 shows (the reader).
    Birds can fly, as I show you in picture 1.
    In picture 1, I show you that birds can fly.
    Picture 1 shows a bird flying (to the reader).

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    jakartaman

    Senior Member

    Korean

    • Dec 10, 2020
    • #12

    Hi, may I add a question here? It is relevant to this thread.
    Can you please tell me why 4 doesn't work?
    1. as is shown = as shown
    2. as is known = as known
    3. as is mentioned = as mentioned
    but
    4. as is expected (x), as expected (o) (source)
    Thank you!

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Dec 10, 2020
    • #13

    A. In your link, Parla says that "gets bigger" is wrong, not that "as is expected" is wrong.

    B. "As expected" means "as was expected", which means "as (someone) expected".
    But you need to consider the verb's subject for this phrase to make sense.

    1. as is shown in the picture as shown or as is shown? (8)
    2. as is known by who? who knows this? as shown or as is shown? (9)
    3. as is mentioned in the text shown here as shown or as is shown? (10)
    4. as was expected by who? who expected this? as shown or as is shown? (11)

    It is meaningless to say "as was expected" or "as is known" unless you tell us who knows this, or who expected this.

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    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Dec 10, 2020
    • #14

    These phrases are not "idioms" or "standard phrases". They are normal words, using normal grammar to express meaning.
    Each expression needs to have meaning ("make sense"), not "fit a pattern".

    The words "shown", "known", "mentioned" and "expected" are past participles of the verbs "show, know, mention, expect". They are being used the same way countless other part participles are used:
    - as mounted
    - as decorated
    - as blamed
    - as requested
    - as decided
    - as agreed to

    Is there a missing "is"? A missing "was"? That depends on the sentence, and how this phrase is used in the sentence.

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